Thursday, January 15, 2009

Escaping civilization

Hello All,

Thank you for checking out our blog. We are currently in the process of developing a website. This summer, Spencer Mondshein, Eli Federman and Beny will be leaving their respective urban lifestyles and entering the rugged wilderness. Despite being city dwellers completely reliant on modern society, we will survive for 30 days and nights, divorced from all of our technological comforts. This means… No cell phones. No TV. No computer. No store bought food. No showers. No cars. No air conditioning. No microwave. No running water. No tent. No utensils. No bed. No medicine. No doctor. No distractions. We will use our natural resources to innovate survival.

We will be bringing a camera for the purpose of sharing this experience through a documentary style film. While, we have both personal and sociological reasons for this foray, the essential idea behind this undertaking is to reassure everyone and prove that common people have the innate ability to survive in the wild while reaping the psychological, physical and emotional benefits of being in tuned with nature.

On a personal level, we will be entering this journey for self-discovery and an education on primitive survival. A human’s perception of difficulty changes with the realization that you can survive in the wilderness with no modern day comforts. We often look at people and wonder if they would look the same had they not lived amidst pollution, fast food, television, cars, chemicals, sweets, computers, sofas, microwaves, radiation etc. As city dwellers, it will be interesting to see and feel raw mother nature. We plan on engaging in great discourse on a variety of issues. We will have a lot of time for reflection and thought. So, for us, this will be good mental and physical medicine.

With the documentary and essence of the journey we hope to convey a few things.

1) Protesting American societies pressure for social standing and material acquisition.
While claiming to support "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", American society is very suffocating. The pressure to be "successful" is criminal. The definition of "success" has taken on a meaning that further advocates societies pressure. We look around and see too many individuals leading lives that are for social standing, attainment of material goods and future comfort, rather than intellectual discovery and personal physical and emotional wellness. We are forever trying to be accepted and respected by others when we should be respecting ourselves! There seems to be some giant race that everyone enters subconsciously. However, We don't see what the prize for winning is. If we had to choose it would be happiness, satisfaction, accomplishment, love of something or someone. Unfortunately, social hierarchy and the "American dream" seem to be the trophies, luxuries and material goods, the prize. In everyone’s core there is a wild beast of the forest. At one point in time, no matter how brief, we have all relished at the thought of living a wild and adventurous life. In the forest, you can survive and live comfortably without the luxuries. In the end, the tangible elements in your life won’t determine if you are pleased or not. In the wilderness we will reach this higher awareness living a meaningful life that is not dependent on the acquisition of material goods.

2) Respect and appreciation for the environment.
We simply need to respect this world in which we live. Human beings are guests of this planet. We were blessed to evolve the way in which we did and have the brain capacity to develop the stunning technologies of today. However, if we are so dang smart, then we must be able to see that our planet needs us now. Before human technology came along, the globe was pure, fresh and natural. Mother nature was the scientist, technician, religious figure, governing body and philosopher. Now, humans have assumed all these roles and as a result, we are running out of drinking water and are being exposed to toxic waste and environmental degradation. The very air we breathe no longer is crisp, fresh and healthy. So, not only do we need to do something about this for the safety of the human race, but out of respect for the mother who has nurtured us from day one.

3) The absurdity of racism.

Long before cities, class systems, currency, technology and “civilized society”, the mindset of humans was solely to survive. Power, prestige and privilege did not exist. We roamed the planet as equals. Equals, with the same goal. That goal was to live. At the very core of it all today is the same. Racism is an illogical belief. It is proven that we, humans, share ninety-nine point nine percent of our DNA with each other. As a matter of fact, more variations occur within ethnic groups than between them. How can there be so much hatred when we have so much in common? We are so similar that it would only take .1% more bigotry to FULLY hate yourself. There is no reason for prejudice other than people’s own unreasonable fears. What is so difficult about seeing that all people, whether man, woman, black, white, yellow, green, orange, purple, tall, short, rich, poor, smart, slow, blind, deaf, crippled, old or young are PEOPLE? Those who look at others as inferior fail to realize that they share the same qualities as those other human beings. Being in the wild, Eli, Beny, and myself will become the hunted and the hunter. We will realize that we are all in this together. We are all human beings that require the same necessities: food, water, shelter, companionship, meaning, self-actualization. This realty will be realized through reliving a primitive time where humankind universally recognized their inherent equality.

Thank you for reading and please give your comments and suggestions. If you agree, great. If you disagree, even better. The best way to learn is to discuss. A good open-minded discourse allows for infinite amount of information to pass through. We really appreciate it.

-Spencer, Eli and Beny

20 comments:

  1. Sounds great, good luck guys!

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  2. I will post my initial reaction with more comments/analysis/reflection to follow after work.....

    It seems to me much of the advocacy behind this trip is built upon the existence of rigid, structured dichotomies in our culture. In other words: material/inmaterial; human centered world/natured centered world; goodness/badness. It's easy and incredible intellectually liberating to assert these exist but I encourage you all to reconsider their validity. Can I pursue material wealth/trophies and at the same time be in love/seek respect and recognition from peers? Can I embrace the environmental movement and use the societel structures (utilities, cars) that presuppose its "imminent collapse?" Can I be racist on alternative grounds, perhaps theological grounds (Israel v. Palestine)?

    Furthermore, what is the impact of the worldview you put forth in the manifesto above. If you start to think about the logical extensions of the ideas there are many tough decisions that need to be made. For example, what is capitalism without incentive to garner wealth? What's the alternative? How about technology, will you argue the development of HIV medication as part of a larger competition toward an "invisible" prize is bad? Do the ends justify the means? Can I kill one person to save 1,000?

    Don't think this post is meant to dissuade your journey - it's only motivation to push its ideological underpinnings further.

    This is very exciting! Great work!

    Dibs on marketing the full length feature film...

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  3. I think it's great what you guys are trying to do but I don’t think you did all of your homework. For example, society is one of evolution’s most advanced productions. The prosperity of humans, and many other animals for that matter, has stemmed from their ability to form societies that serve as a means of protection and procreation. I do agree that human societies have shifted focus from survival to prestige and status, however, the challenge of survival has become far more obsolete than when we “roamed the earth.” Therefore, it is somewhat natural for the shift to occur.
    Racism is absurd. There is no doubt about that. What you failed to mention is that there is a strong argument to be made that racism is actually apart of a primitive defense mechanism. It has been well proven in psychology that much of what motivates racism and prejudice derives from our midbrain and not the prefrontal cortex, which is the most recent and advanced addition to the human brain. The prefrontal cortex, which is largely responsible for social regulation, could not possibly be the sole source of prejudice. Consequently, a strong argument could be made that "racism" was developed early on in the development of man to help them distinguish between foreign and potentially dangerous threats from the common and benign. This would also explain the common phenomenon when humans tend to find things more attractive the more they seem them. The reason? Our unconscious is telling us that these everyday stimuli are harmless and therefore actually begin to appear more attractive. For the record, I am not defending racism. I am just bored at work.

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  4. Excellent point on the dichotomy issue, David. Relative city slickers confronting the wilderness for 30 days despite their dependence on modern civilization will show the world how the city and wild are really not that far apart. The dichotomy is illusory. For me one of the points of the trip is to prove to myself and others that there is no dichotomy. It is about bridging that seeming divide.

    I have allot more to say but due to time constraints I will post tomorrow night or Sunday on your other points. I look forward to your follow up and thanks for the critique. It really has me thinking.

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  5. Hey Guys - this sounds like a great adventure/diet. I disagree with the main tenants of your THREE points but hey, I now live in an apartment, work in an office building, and commute on a subway (rat race style).

    I'm all for conserving and trying to reduce pollution.... but I am extremely grateful for industrialized civilizations and their incredible, miraculous benefits.

    Like... heat, light bulbs, abundant food, books, tetracycline, Beatles music, electricity, movies, Woody Allen movies (this list is like a scene from Manhattan), air travel, the polio vaccine, universities, the internet, space exploration, basketball, cell phones, aspirin, ovens, washing machines, libraries, etc, etc. etc.

    On a serious note. I hope you are bringing a really good knife.

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  6. Very well put, Rob. I can't wait until I'm depressed and you are my therapist. This is the definition of racism I found on dictionary.com.

    rac⋅ism   [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1.
    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    You stated...

    "... there is a strong argument to be made that racism is actually apart of a primitive defense mechanism… a strong argument could be made that "racism" was developed … to help them distinguish between foreign and potentially dangerous threats from the common and benign"

    I agree it makes sense for early humans to have developed a subconscious ability to detect a friend from a foe. However, that’s not what prejudice is. Whether there is a threat or not, prejudice is the belief in SUPERIORITY. And often, natural superiority. As though, we were born above another race of HUMANS. It does not seem likely that this type of mentality would have developed before societies and civilizations were constructed. Our goal, by entering and “roaming the earth” away from urbanization and modern society, is to place ourselves in an environment that reiterates the equality of human beings and shows that our very basic needs as people are all the same. The idea is throwing away the creation of society, even if it is natural for protection and procreation, to show in our natural state and form, that our similar objectives and necessities transcend all race and minor differences.

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  7. By the way, if you end up having to eat one person to survive... I assume it would be Benny.

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  8. In Response to Racialist Issues

    Spencer-I have a hard time accepting your argument on racism. I think we need to acknowledge that racism exists on a couple different levels. I think most of your readers agree that there is an intrinsic component to racism (you disagree) and that there is also the more commonly discussed racism that has been manufactured by society and evil men preying on the fears of the weak.

    On some level we are all the same. We share the same DNA and need the same things to survive. BUT- we are also different and these differences are essential to our continued existence. It is these differences and our ability to acknowledge these differences that has allowed us to get this far. It seems that you are saying racism didn't exist before societies and civilizations were constructed… Almost as if to say there was a time where blacks and whites could wander the Earth together in search of some good mastodon for dinner. Yet Homo sapiens have banded together in groups since we were a hunter-gatherer people (before we were modern humans).

    These groups-which formed the basis of early societies and civilizations- were made up of like people. White cavemen gave birth to white cavemen babies, while black cave (jungle) men gave birth to black babies and these populations eventually grew and for the most part they grew separately. That's just how it went down.

    I know we can agree that survival is essential for all humans and is a basic instinct. However, it seems that you refuse to acknowledge racism and other forms of ethnocentrism as natural components to that survival. Racial prejudice, religious prejudice, hell even aesthetic prejudice against ugly people has existed forever- it is a way for people to protect themselves and there kind. And while you may argue that we are all the same "kind," it is impossible to ignore certain genetic tendencies like altruism and kin selection (basics of anthropology.)

    Monkeys and humans alike have a natural proclivity to help those that they are more closely related to or have gained acceptance into social groups via proximity and like characteristics. Distinguishing characteristics like skin color, religious groups, and appearance have governed how humans have interacted since we had the capacity to think. I think you should check out Richard Dawkins book “The Selfish Gene.” He discusses in great detail and example many of the arguments we are having. He is also the author of “The God Delusion.” The text that most efficiently sums up my stance on organized religion and God.
    So what I’m saying is that I both agree and disagree with you.
    I disagree because I think racism/prejudice are natural defense mechanisms encoded in our DNA and these natural prejudices have paved the way for the prevalence of racism in our culture.
    AND I agree with you that racism in its modern context is absurd. I don’t think anyone that reads your blog harbors racist beliefs (except maybe Sean).
    All in all, I’m left with one question- what do you intend to prove about racism and what will be your proof? The world is a complex place and racism is a complex issue, don’t you think that simplifying it is a bit insulting?
    I will reiterate that I think this is a crazy idea even though I know it will not deter you. I have faith that you will survive. I actually hope that you have an experience similar to Alec Baldwin in The Edge. Goodnight and Goodluck.

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  9. I have responded to some of your critique in the latest post
    http://uncitylized.blogspot.com/2009/01/extreme-actions-to-promote-mild-and.html

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  10. So, since you plan on " Protesting American societies pressure for social standing and material acquisition" you are doing this with gear that anyone can afford, and not the best that REI sells correct? When I watch the video, I don't expect to see everyone in $200 jackets and pants, carrying $100 knives and $80 leathermans when there are perfectly acceptable $10 multitool knockoffs at walmart. You do plan on hitting up goodwill for your secondhand wool clothing for those cold nights and making your own backpacks and gear as possible correct?

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  11. Anonymous I'll just reiterate what I said before.
    "There is nothing wrong with acquiring material goods and appreciating the benefits of modern technology. The greatest inventions that have offset the most pain and suffering in the world are a product of civilization. Regenerative medicine. Vaccines. Antibiotics. Hygiene. Penicillin. Wonder bread. (Disclaimer: Keep in mind that with those positive technological inventions also came the atomic bomb and other destructive devices.) I’m in no way diminishing the importance and value of these inventions but nevertheless those innovations cannot alone bring us internal happiness. Once we start viewing technology as an end in itself to achieving happiness we are doomed to be miserable. That is why celebrities, like Britney Spears, with more material goods than the average person could dream of can still live miserable wretched lives while the patient dying of terminal cancer lives a deeply meaningful and happy life. Research shows there is no correlation between material goods/money and happiness. More material goods does not mean more happiness. The message of this expedition is not to shun materiality but to recognize that materiality is only a means to a greater end. At the end of the day we have family, loved ones, and humanity to rely on. We often forget this when caught up in the hustle bustle of every day life. Sometimes it takes an extreme experience to reawaken this in us."

    The point is not whether we will bring real leathermans or knockoffs its about changing our perspective. But to answer your question we are not going to be bringing much besides a good knife, saw, and some emergency water purification tablets. We will be building our own primitive shelter and collecting our own wild edibles.

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  12. I SERIOUSLY hope you guys are getting SOME training beforehand, and NOT just getting info from books. As a lifetime outdoorsman, I want to point out some differences between your perception and reality. Nature, in itself, does not care whether you live, or not. Nature just is. Its up to YOU to create an environment that keeps you alive. Nature is neither benevolent, nor malevolent.
    Excerising in a situation you are perceiving yourself to bi in simply will not happen. You WILL run out of energy, likely within 2-3 days, tops. And, expecting to live off the land; first, you will need hunting and/or trapping permits. Otherwise, you are poaching. There isnt any hunting season during summer, with the exception of MAYBE varmint hunting. So, you are likely looking at eating mice, rats, squirrels, voles, and insects. The chance of you taking ANYTHING large is zero. And, trapping/hunting is a skill best NOT practice when needed. Find someone who can show you how to do these things. And, understand this; a 5% success rate is normal for trapping using primitive technology. So, you WILL be hungry.
    Wild edibles; again, find someone who can show you what they look like! A mistake out there, eating something you shouldnt, can kill you. A lot of edible plants have toxic cousins; it takes an expert to identify them.
    You WILL be bored. Accept that. You WILL fight, accept that as well. You will NOT sleep well (or, not at first), accept that. The ground is cold & hard, even in the summer. Things crawl on you. You are a heat source. Snakes, bugs, etc, will migrate to you for heat.
    Cuts go septic, quickly, when not cleaned out there. Cleanliness is your friend. Purify ALL water. Boiling any water for 5 mins kills everything (but does NOT remove toxic chemicals!).
    Take some practice weekends, work on building a fire. This is something most people headed out, and conffronted with a survival situation, never take into account. Lighting it with a lighter is easy. Practice using alernative methods. flint & steel & fire bow. Be aware that these methods can take at LEAST an hour to get a fire going.
    I sincerely hope you have taken at least some of this into account. As an active S&R member, I have taught survival classes to fellow members many, many times. The difference between spending an unplanned night out and getting home safely, and turning a dayhike into a survival ordeal, is all in planning. Both physically & mentally. Please, do not rely on S&R to save your bacon because you were unprepared.

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  13. Speaking as an instructor of wild edible plant classes, I hope you have devoted a lot of time to this subject. Please be aware that foraging is forbidden on most public lands. The previous commenter also made a very valid point about you must follow hunting and fishing laws. It would suck if you ended up getting busted for illegal harvesting of plants or animal.

    I look forward to following your attempt. If you have any questions about wild edibles (including bugs!) drop me a line over at http://houstonwildedibles.blogspot.com/

    -Merriwether

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  14. What if you didn't go on this trip but instead donated ten hours a day for thirty days to teach immigrant children how to read.

    That's nine hundred hours between the three of you.

    I have read it takes someone with no knowledge of any of the basics of the english language roughly 120 hours to learn to read.

    That means you could teach 7.5 children to read.

    Why is your venture more valid or useful or legitimate or warranted or needed?

    The deeper question I'm alluding to here revolves around "the state." Can we bring change in the world faster and more effectively by rejecting the state or working within its sometimes imperfect boundaries?

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  15. I think that the last two contributors to this blog, while seemingly well informed, are being a little histrionic. (The all caps are unnecessary and distracting)
    It is clear that while they will be living off the land, they have no intention of losing themselves in the woods. Therefore, if the situation were to arise, they would be able to end their journey safely and quickly. And yes, there are hunting and gaming laws that need to be acknowledged, however, I have a difficult time believing that they're going to be killing dear, elk or any other substantial game. Therefore, I can’t imagine any sort of criminal repercussions.
    Most of all, you have both missed the point. This is not some impromptu game or some challenge against accepted institutions but rather a simple demonstration. These guys are attempting to illustrate the natural endurance and carnality of mankind. And through this demonstration, they hope to inspire humility and confidence in people who are too often jaded by the shiny things around them. I am sure they realize that sleeping on the ground is different than their pillow-top mattresses. Food scarcity and enervation is too a predictable consequence of this trip. That’s the point. If there was no sacrifice then there would be no purpose.

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  16. Yes, but hundreds of others have adopted that lifestyle, and more than a few books have been written about it. Living "off the grid" is common in several parts of the US, and canada as well. 30 days living off the land, with little skill beforehand, simply isnt practical. I dont think you would go more than a few days foraging; eventually, you would be forced to trap or fish (hunting simply is a waste of time & energy). Again, foraging requires lots of energy; not something you just "do". It is a skill that needs to be learned & practiced beforehand...mistakes can be potentially fatal. Trapping, again, requires a permit. Despite your personal feelings about paying for a permit; its the law. Plain & simple.
    Honestly, I think this is a publicity stunt, more than anything else. If you want to make a statement, there are more, VALID ways to do it. Taking a 30 day camping trip just doesnt seem like a way to promote what you are trying to promote. After all, some of us (myself included) do this on quite a regular basis; maybe not for a month, but certainly for several days. Not ONCE did I do it for an ideal; quite often, I take off for a 3 day weekend with nothing more than a survival kit I can put in my pocket to ESCAPE people always trying to prove one thing or another.

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  17. I think calling this a publicity stunt is not exactly accurate. In fact, I think they are getting very little publicity and it will most likely stay that way.

    The trip itself is not for a few months and there is little evidence that they will not train and/or study up on necessary materials to ensure their safety. Yes, the law is the law. That is why you can blindly shoot various predators in Alaska with automatic weapons while dangling from a helicopter. Plain and simple. The law is interpretive and I still stand by the fact that legal repercussions will be minimal at best.

    I think your opinions are valid. I just think that it is myopic to throw aside these "publicity stunts" just because you happen to be in the select minority of possessing the skill and desire to venture outside of societies well established boundaries.

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  18. Robert, my intent isnt to belittle these people; I am just stating that people do this all the time without attaching any sort of political statement to it. I fail to see why these people have to.
    And, the publicity isnt now; its when they either go to the media right before they do this, and then are either rescued, or quit. And, judging by their lack fo responses, I am starting to think they have lost interest in this "project".

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  19. Good Luck to you all and especially Eli. I know you talked about doing this for a long time even just for fun and I think you are doing it in a very Eli way. Good luck and remember which side the moss grows on (North, usually).

    -Brett Barbakoff

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  20. Well, its been a year since they announced it, and 7 months since they were to allegedly do this trip. We have received no updates since June 09. So, either they failed to go through with it, quit, or disappeared. Yet again...babes in the woods. Honestly, this is the real result I expected-lack of commitment.

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